tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6498413430541424627.post9190140761186745981..comments2023-11-29T01:47:52.439-07:00Comments on clarity2010: War crimesRelax Maxhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01051381168322495999noreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6498413430541424627.post-15096856375580312912009-10-04T13:45:26.285-06:002009-10-04T13:45:26.285-06:00"Because I think, deep down, ALL of war is a ..."Because I think, deep down, ALL of war is a crime."<br>"No matter how justified, or even "necessary," war is always a crime."<br><br>Now substitute "war" with "killing" and you will have my thoughts on your previous post but one.<br><br>Not so very much difference between war and killing?A.http://travellingspouse.blogspot.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6498413430541424627.post-61487665832462624812009-10-04T13:54:27.621-06:002009-10-04T13:54:27.621-06:00@A. - But I DON'T think all killing is a crime...@A. - But I DON'T think all killing is a crime, or even wrong.<br><br>There is very much a difference between the two.Relax Maxhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01051381168322495999noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6498413430541424627.post-84661312296320468052009-10-04T13:59:38.268-06:002009-10-04T13:59:38.268-06:00I'm in agreement with Relax Max on this one. ...I'm in agreement with Relax Max on this one. I don't think all killing is wrong, but war always involves horrific actions on either side. I understand the mindset of those against capital punishment; I just don't agree and yet I'm against war.<br><br>I don't have trouble with the distinctions in my own mind, but I can understand someone else being confused.<br><br>I have seriously buttloads of pacifist quotes, a surprisingly large number from those that made their living by it: generals.Stephanie Bhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17772217449161603561noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6498413430541424627.post-71007240186873213302009-10-04T14:22:09.943-06:002009-10-04T14:22:09.943-06:00I tried to stay away from war quotes by generals. ...I tried to stay away from war quotes by generals. They always seem so sanctimonious. Even one by Aristotle: "We make war so that we may live in peace." is just bullshit. (Is it legal for me to call a quote by Aristotle bullshit?) He should know better. If war lets us live in peace later, why do we still have constant war? I came across another quote that I didn't use that says, "Everyone is a pacifist between wars. It's like being a vegetarian between meals."Relax Maxhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01051381168322495999noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6498413430541424627.post-84692613942373926742009-10-04T14:23:41.019-06:002009-10-04T14:23:41.019-06:00@A. - War is so much more than killing. War is a c...@A. - War is so much more than killing. War is a crime, a failure of reason, and a crying shame.Relax Maxhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01051381168322495999noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6498413430541424627.post-39236202652973574132009-10-04T14:25:41.843-06:002009-10-04T14:25:41.843-06:00But having said that, I guess I would still opt to...But having said that, I guess I would still opt to defend myself rather than simply giving up, if attacked. But the word "attacked" (which used to be so straightforward) seems to have taken on so many nuances and qualifications, hasn't it?Relax Maxhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01051381168322495999noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6498413430541424627.post-3817978146777907352009-10-04T14:28:09.152-06:002009-10-04T14:28:09.152-06:00Aristotle was not a general. I know that.Aristotle was not a general. I know that.Relax Maxhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01051381168322495999noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6498413430541424627.post-33239254573585537282009-10-04T14:31:43.661-06:002009-10-04T14:31:43.661-06:00That is a very powerful and troubling image... wow...That is a very powerful and troubling image... wow. <br><br>As for commentary, all I can do is agree with what you've said...Kelhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12968396049579378856noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6498413430541424627.post-79649819822403102122009-10-04T15:01:39.507-06:002009-10-04T15:01:39.507-06:00"But I DON'T think all killing is a crime..."But I DON'T think all killing is a crime, or even wrong."<br>My point was - I do. And I think execution is legally "justified" (for some) in the same way as war is. Frequently just another form of revenge.A.noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6498413430541424627.post-6062734405820084862009-10-04T15:27:26.793-06:002009-10-04T15:27:26.793-06:00@Lady - I don't really know if it was a true w...@Lady - I don't really know if it was a true war crime" but it was very sad at any rate. Thank you for stopping by. We've missed you. :)<br><br>@A. - Oh, you do not. Climb down off of that thing.<br><br>But you think revenge is wrong? I see. How about "retaliation"?Relax Maxhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01051381168322495999noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6498413430541424627.post-66697263566987263312009-10-05T07:02:38.925-06:002009-10-05T07:02:38.925-06:00Splitting hairs here. Is killing someone justified...Splitting hairs here. Is killing someone justified? Even at the possibility of losing your own life? Is killing justified even in war? Oh I know, how can you have a war without death? You obviously cannot. So does that make it right? Is all war wrong?<br>I have a hard time believing war is okay. But at the same time one must protect oneself should they not? Killing can be justified, but when children are caught in the crossfires it is so very wrong.<br>Now I think this whole comment made very little sense, and I am sure you will agree. Too frickin early for me.ettarosehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13178737973585191754noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6498413430541424627.post-70918470518701390122009-10-07T20:35:43.870-06:002009-10-07T20:35:43.870-06:00@Ettarose - Is killing ever justified? Sure, somet...@Ettarose - Is killing ever justified? Sure, sometimes. Why would you put a value on an assailant's life over and above your own or your children's? Justifiable homicide is what the DA calls it when he declines to prosecute you.<br><br>On a larger scale, when another country attacks your country and your way of life and you and your family's future, it is not dishonorable for your country to strike back. Or is it?<br><br>I think you muddy the water by being so indecisive. Agression is wrong, whether it is us or them. But don't be ashamed of protecting your family, yourself, or your country. I say.<br><br>There will always be children in the cross fire. So sad. Especially when combatants hide behind them.Relax Maxhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01051381168322495999noreply@blogger.com