Friday, November 4, 2011

Thoughts are things


If there is a God (and there is), how it must laugh to watch mortals deep in heavy-duty thought debating its existence or it's form. I say "laugh" because any God that exists must surely have a sense of humor when it comes to humans.

Anselm: God exists because we can conceive of such a thing in our minds. The very conception of something means it exists. Thoughts are things. Just because you can't see something doesn't mean that thing doesn't exist.

Aquinas: So you really think you can conceive of God and what God is? Only God knows what the nature of God is. God exists, but not because you can conceive such an entity exists. Only God can think those thoughts with true knowledge of his nature. Your vague conceptions suck.

Descartes: I think, therefore I am. You don't have to know the nature of God. You only have to conceive that God is perfection, whatever his "nature" is. Give me a break. God exists because I can conceive of a perfect entity. Je pense donc je suis. Cogito ergo sum. Or did I say that already?

Relax Max: Dubito, ergo cogito, ergo sum. Contemplatum hurtus cabeza. I doubt, therefore I think, therefore I am. Thinking makes my head hurt.

4 comments:

  1. Bertrand Russell disdained the ontological argument they say. So someone told me, but I tend to agree with Sankara's dictum that if something is impossible, then we cannot have a perception of it.

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  2. Just because you think something is doesn't necessarily make it so, though. Like if I think I have enough money in my checking account to pay for my grocery purchases but there really isn't then that's just not a good thing and somehow I don't think the grocery store manager is going to be buy into the whole "but I thought for sure I had enough!"

    Not that God and groceries are anywhere near one and the same of course!

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  3. But, Linda, thoughts shape who we are, how we act, and how we PERCEIVE what happens to us...

    They do not create reality, but in a way they do, for they create how we perceive reality. Which, in our egotistical existence, is the same thing.

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  4. @Adullamite - Yes. Not to mention challenging and witty. Thank you for not mentioning. :)

    @Sheila - That kind of talk if pretty hard to argue with. :)

    @Linda - Oh yeah? :)

    @Shakespeare - Yes, it's the thought that counts.

    This is odd, but I think I sort of understand what you just said. :)

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